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Joined: 12 Aug 2004
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Location: on the journey
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:29 pm    Post subject:

I think when dealing with someone else's grief and loss we have to be sensitive to what they need rather than projecting our own needs upon them. Different people need different answers.

yeah, that's a super good point, and it is well taken. hey astrotoby, i wasn't directing the 'philosophical crap' comment at you. there were a lot of other people spouting off. and i just get pissed off real easy.

if the philosophical works for you, cool. it doesn't work for me. i'd rather hear about and share experiences with people, and how that relates to staying faithful. we're all trying to seek Jesus the best way we know how.
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Joined: 24 Aug 2004
Posts: 13
Location: earth
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:45 pm    Post subject: friction is good


I think discussions like this are good and helpful, and I think opposing viewpoints like yours and mine should be addressed and discussed with passion and convicion.

A little bit of friction or conflict is often what is needed to bring us to the next step in our journey, because it brings things out in us (emotions, beliefs, etc.) that we may not even know we had. It shows us clearly what we believe and what others believe, and can sometimes give us insight into a clearer understanding of what we're confused about.

At least that's how it works for me, but as I've found out, what works for me does not work for everybody. Nevertheless I think that heated conversations are valuable and we should not neccessarily be afraid to have them. Within reason of course.

It's sort of a paradox, but the truth is that with the right motivation behind it, a debate between two opposite sides can actually bring people together.
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